April_Rose
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Why i don't like Jack.As many of you know Jack annoys me, so here is a detailed explanation of why. feel free to argue with me but be sure to justify or I will shoot you down, be-ach!  lol
I just don't think that Jack is strong enough of a character to carry an episode by himself, he needs to be a hero but this also means he needs to be the centre of attention all the time and when he isn't he starts getting agitated and throwing hissy fits.
All the best Cowboys have Daddy Issues is a prime example of this - he is the doctor and any good doctor would know that his palce is at the camp where people might need him, not traipsing off through the jungle getting his ass kicked by Ethan. if he puts himself in jeopardy he puts the rest of them in jeopardy too as they need him as a doctor, not a leader.
The episode where he nearly kills himself donating way too much blood to Boone is another great example of this.
A true leader would recognise this , that his greatest skill on the island is his medical knowledge, and step down. ironic maybe, but this is the true test - the best leader would know that he shouldn't be the leader, Jack is way too keen to lead and this points to an insecurity somewhere which does not make for a good quality as it is hidden inside. only when you know your own faults can you be a truly great leader of others.
Of course, another part of why he annoys me is just that he gets so much coverage. And not the interesting parts - like where he got his tatoos and wher ehe learned to play poker better than Sawyer, a professional conman. Oh no, we have to instead sit through a load of episodes about how his wife cheated on him and how he fixed her and she betrayed him and how he was a disappoinment to hsi Daddy and his Daddy was a disappointment to him....we learned a lot more about Christian in the Ana-lucia centric episode, which may have been deliberate, as jack has never grown up enough to see his father as a man rather than just a father.
I hope Tale of Two Cities doesn't focus on these same old issues again and gives us a new dimension to Jack as otherwise I will consider it wasted flashjback time. I don't want to know any more about his failed marriage. It doesn't seem complicated enough to deserve it. I could be wrong, and i do like being proved wrong about these sorts of things, but at the moment, I get bored whenever I see it's another jack moment.
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Admin1
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WOW! Glad u got it all off your chest lol, I aint even gunna try arguing with u lol 
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Guest
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I must say, i completely agree with you :]
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Guest
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Jack is awesome hes like a really gd actor and if he wasnt in lost it would be boring 
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Guest
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True, he is a very good actor, but April_Rose is talking about the charactor Jack, not the actor.
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April_Rose
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Oh yeah, I think Matthew Fox does a great job of playing the self satisfied, smug, "oh, poor me I'm so troubled and wounded by my daddy and my wife" loser. I even agree that he is a highly necessary character, it's just that he really annoys me.
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Guest
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Haha Foxy *thumbs up*
Jack *thumps down*
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Guest
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I wouldn't mind if the losties found a new doctor somehow and left Jack with the others :]
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April_Rose
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That would work for me. The fact he left annoys me more than anything I think because the one thing he is good at is being a doctor, but instead he has to go off and play rambo. And now if Aaron gets sick or anything there is no one. Don't get me wrong, I believe in herbal medicine like Sun uses, but sometimes you need an expert to diagnose and reccommend treatment. Another doctor would be excellent as lost_maniac says because then Jack would come back and be like "I'm back, worship me, follow me, i'm so great i escaped from the others...." and the losties would be like "yeah, whatever, look you might as well go back there man as we've got a better doctor now who is actually satisfied by making sick peopel better."
lol lol lol
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Guest
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haha that'd be a good plan, can you imagine if they did dump him and the new doctor was even more annoying?! Like a mix of Bernard and Jack. o.0
lol
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Guest
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lolll
They'll be like, oh Jack, hey, i thought you died? Ahwell screw you we found someone new =]
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redwinegoblin
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April Rose, you are so right!!!! I think Matthew Fox does a good job of portraying the character, but oh how i hate Jack and his constant blubbering, self analysis, guilt tripping everyone and general "I'm so sensitive but that doesn't make me any less of a man" routine ...and mostly his voice, which I still maintain sounds exactly like Gonzo from the Muppet show - you never see em in a room together......
Wooo! I feel better for that! 
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Guest
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He thinks he can give the orders like...
"NO kate your not coming!"
i wish she would've just shot him
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April_Rose
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I know, who the hell does he think he is talking to her like that - that's why I'm a skater rather than a jater, I've been in a relationship where I was patronised and it's really bad for self esteemk and that's the way he treats Kate
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Guest
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Kate could kick his ass in a fight lol
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redwinegoblin
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Yeah, he speaks to her like she's an idiot.... she should soooo chose Sawyer!!!
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Guest
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She so hasssss chose Sawyer
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April_Rose
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Well that kiss really swept her off her feet, don't think jack hass ever done anything as spontaneous or risky, Jack acts like he's trying to rescue her/protect her all the time whereas Sawyer put her and himself in danger just to kiss her, how romantic is that!
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Guest
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| April_Rose wrote: | | Oh yeah, I think Matthew Fox does a great job of playing the self satisfied, smug, "oh, poor me I'm so troubled and wounded by my daddy and my wife" loser. I even agree that he is a highly necessary character, it's just that he really annoys me. |
HAHA! I do agree his flashbacks are getting really annoying. I think he's a good character, but he shouldn't ever have another flashback episode.
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April_Rose
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not this series anyway, unless there's a major revelation. or, like the last time Shannon and Ana had flashbacks, then they died. lol
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Guest
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Im gunna be annoyed if the next Jack flashback doesnt reveal anything new, and just goes on and on about his wife and his dad etc. BORING.
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Guest
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i love jack. He's my favorite losties, he wants to help people and he doesn't like to walk away from things
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Guest
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Maybe ill grow to him as this season unfolds, though i doubt it lol
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angelfairy
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i agree with what most people have said that jack's flashbacks are some of the most boring as they always focus on his marriage or him being a doctor ....hopefully when he finally has a flashback about his tattoo's it will be slightly more interesting ....i hope anyway!
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redwinegoblin
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Altho if they did a tattoo flashback we'd probably find out that they're some kind of symbol code for "my wife ran off with another bloke and my Father hates me" !!!
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angelfairy
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| redwinegoblin wrote: | | Altho if they did a tattoo flashback we'd probably find out that they're some kind of symbol code for "my wife ran off with another bloke and my Father hates me" !!! |
lmao very true!!
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April_Rose
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hehe
Maybe there is a reason they're focussing so much on his marriage and his needing to fix stuff - the latter perhaps because of this x-ray we saw with the spinal tumour, because the others want him to fix one of them, but I'm still not sure about the marriage, unless there really was soemthing going on between his Dad and Sarah, otherwise I really can't figure out why they keep going on about it.
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April_Rose
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Ah yes, here's my "I hate Jack thread..."
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Em_J
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Can't believe you made a whole thread! I don't mind Jack. I wouldn't be that bothered if he got killed off though!
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Xarcabard
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Haven't read this yet but heres the reasons I dislike Jack.
He gets too stuck up with himself with the whole "I'm the leader" business.
He doesn't listen to anyone elses opinions on matters, its my way or I'm gonna cry about it is the logic he uses.
His flashback's are very plain, we all know he split up with his wife so why do we need three episodes about it. Now we're going to learn about Jack's tattoos. Oh goodie.
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Em_J
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I agree, Xarca, especially on that last reason you gave. Think I even moaned about that on WatchLost!
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April_Rose
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that's pretty much what I said, I think you're better at making it consise though Xarca, I tend to go on a bit, as I'm sure the other members on here will tell you!
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Xarcabard
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I've got a problem with doing that now and then.
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zuimar
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Guys, it's good to hear that there are people out there who don't worship Jack, because the people at ABC still seem to think that it has to be the Jack show, although he wasn't in the last episode, so maybe they have seen the light 
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Red Devil 26
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Jack does play the hero role very well, although I do agree his flashbacks are extremely bland, season 3 hasn't really brought out the best in him, probably because of this stifling storyline, need more answers!
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Jenny*
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i still love jack though . . . but i wish they hadn't made his character so crap this season 
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