April_Rose
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S04E05 - The Constant Discussion threadSo, you've seen the episode - what did you think??? Discuss it here!
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Xarcabard
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Every now and then a episode comes along that I haven't got a clue what on earth is happening but still really like. This was one of these episodes, I think that whether people like it or not will vary because the episode is different to any other but thats the same reason I liked it.
And the end exchange between Desmond and Penny nealy brought me to tears, it was really heart rendering.
Have to say that Farraday was really good in this episode too, looks like another interesting character.
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April_Rose
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Yeah I really like Daniel now, wasn't sure about him at the start but he's growing on me!
I kind of understood it, in as much as I can understand consciousness time-travelling!  made sense the way they went about it.
Yeah was good that Desmond & Penny finally talked! 
It's getting more confusing in one way, but I like the angle it's taking!
Good episode overall I thought, will post more when I've had time to think about it!
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Xarcabard
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Yeah Daniel is my fav from the freighter people now, he's certainly the most interesting. Can't wait to learn more about him.
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Em_J
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Ok, just seen it!!! If Daniel is such a genius, how come he can't tell a buck rat from a doe?! Hmmm?! Elouise was a buck! Ha! That makes me a genius.
Anyway... Yeah brill episode! My favourite so far I think. Love all that weird stuff.
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April_Rose
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Hehe! Maybe he just likes giving boy rats girl's names?
Yeah I like the weird stuff too, I'm so into time travel stuff that it doesn't seem too messed up!
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Em_J
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He called him her though, so he's just stupid!
Yeah I love time travel stuff, brill ep. Made perfect sense to me! And I said the same thing'd happened to Daniel and Desmond. Again, genius.
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April_Rose
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Oh ok! Maybe he is just stupid then!
Yeah you got it right! Interesting that Desmond is Daniel's constant now.....
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Em_J
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Yeah it's good! I like Daniel and Desmond. I'm trying to remember the card thing from the last ep... do you reckon that was some time travel thing?!
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April_Rose
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Maybe...like he was trying to send his consciousness into the future to see what the cards were, then remember them and go back and know what they were?
I suppose if he was trying to take control of the time-travel thing that would make sense!
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Em_J
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Yeah. Either that or he really just does have a dodgy memory!
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April_Rose
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because he is a scientist he probably would want to be able to take control of it, so it makes sense!
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Em_J
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Too good at working out this Lost stuff now, see!!
Also another good thing about this ep... the lack of Jack!! How ace was that?! I think that proves that Lost doesn't need Jack cos that was the best ep so far. Unfortunately the next ep looks like it's going to be Jack overload though. 
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April_Rose
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Yeah, I was impressed with the lack of Jack as well!
Yeah he'll be in it a lot Still, at least we had one he was hardly in!
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xkatiex
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just finished watching the eisode..thought it was great!!..
my favourite so far i think..i didnt have a clue what was going on half the time but was soooo glad when penny & desmond finallyyyy talked, it was really sweet 
im gonna have to watch it again...& i like daniel even more now, hes the best new character i think..
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April_Rose
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Yeah this episode made me really like Daniel as well! It was sweet, I don/t like stuff normally that's all lovey-dovey but that was a really good scene....
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Guest
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see i told ya all daniel isnt that bad he's ok.
btw a great eps this it tops all of em.
i liked the ending thou where daniel reads his journal
that his constant will be desmond.a clue there i think for future eps.
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April_Rose
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Yeah, the two of them are definitely linked now.
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Guest
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but y didnt they reconize each other when desmond was leaving for the freight.
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April_Rose
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Well for Desmond it hadn't happened yet, and for Daniel I don't think he was able to remember it until it happened for Desmond - or else he did recognise Desmond but couldn't say anything in case Desmond got freaked and didn't want to get on the chopper?
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Guest
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that cud be it.
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April_Rose
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I've watched it again now. Yeah, I think the reason Daniel couldn't remember is that until Desmond went back to the past and met him, the circle wasn't complete - Desmond needed a constant so that he could remember and get grounded in the present, which was Penny, and Daniel needed one too, but as his constant was Desmond he needed him to play his part before he could get to the stage of everything making sense for him again, but it affected him a bit different to how if affected Desmond.
I'd nearly forgotten earlier as well, was cool the way the Black Rock was mentioned! 
So the diary ended up in the Hanso family, presumably how they found out about the island, and then Widmore bought it - I wonder if that was when he learned about it, or if he already knew and wanted to buy the journal so that no one else could find it?
Kind of ties in with the RPG again too, as Melissa found that old diary with the equations about how to get on and off the island!
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Em_J
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See!!! I knew it, they're nicking our ideas!
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April_Rose
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Tell me about it! We better get plane tickets to Hawaii in the post one of these days!
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Guest
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thats right blackrock was mentioned in this one finally.
and also very kind of mr widmore to give desmond penny's
address so nice of him.
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April_Rose
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Yeah, I think he only did it because he thought Penny would tell Desmond where to go....didn't work out like that though!
I wonder if Penny found the journal her Dad bought and that's how she figured about the island?
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Guest
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thats a good theory there april rose.
i wonder if thats the case.
and also she said in her phone call that she will find desmond
and she mentioned charile too.
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April_Rose
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Yeah, well she did speak to Charlie - probably not that long ago for her, just a few days even, though it's so long since we saw that episode!
Yeah she's definitely going to keep trying to get to him now.
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Guest
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and it was also chritsmas time in the real world.
i thought that was cool.
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lostbhoys
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i have no idea what is going on in this season at all. by the way just become a dad for the second time. a boy
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April_Rose
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^^Congrats lostbhoys!
I love the way Lost is confusing, I think some stuff is definitely getting clearer though!
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Guest
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congrats lostbhoys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
welcome to weird and wonderful world of lost.
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Xarcabard
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Wow thats awesome lostbhoys, congratulations! Is it a leapyear baby?
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bagels
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Phwoofy?!!? well that episode wasnt half confusing was it guys?! thanks to that i now have crystal clear clarity on what in the blazes is goin on that island?! yeah right like that will eva hapen.lol.sory i amuse myself sometimes even tho i no im not funny.anyway all that said it was stil a prety damm good episode, as all have been so far this seson in my humble opinion, and thas quite a genourous review from me considerin in had NO SAWYER!!!!! Not that that affects my judgement of an episode in any way guys i mean god im not that shallow.no seriously like i said i liked it basically for the same reson u guys said even without really understanding a great deal of it, but like AR said (i think) thas lost.u dont hav to understand it to enjoy it.thas th beauty of it. anyho better tie this post up now, as usual didnt mean to babble so much but ther u go. glad u lot r seeing the light and comin around to daniel.im with BRG i liked him from the begingin.he's 'rad'.love ur banners 2 btw BRG.lol.
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Guest
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thnx bagels.
yes he's turning out to be a great character.
i also like frank i loved his little humor in this ps when sayid wanted to make
a phonecall to jack and frank says dnt u be calling baghdad now its only for calling
eachother.
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April_Rose
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Yeah I've really taken to Frank as well! He seems slightly crazy - in a good way - himself!
yeah cool Av there BRG!
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bagels
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Yeah i dont mind frank either, he seems alrite.its only bluming charlotte i cant stand out of the new lot really.i mean is she meana be english or australian or canadian or what cos im having a hard time tryna work out her accent.and also shes jus really generally anoying an has scary eyes.
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April_Rose
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Apparently she is English, I think a lot of people agree she doesn't sound it though! I'm not too keen on her either but maybe we'll get a better sense of her in the new episode.
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Jenny*
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watched the episode last night ... have to say I wasn't all that impressed, which is kinda the opposite of what you all think ... but I guess I prefer the stuff on the island ..
loved seeing daniel in the past though, he is so cool! .. and I think I prefer Desmond in the past also, well his hair anyway ....
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April_Rose
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I think we've all had an episode this season that we didn't like as much as the others, we've all got different stuff we love about Lost!
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Jenny*
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yeah it's good having different view ... I can't wait for episodes 7 & 8 ... I think they're going to be awsome!
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April_Rose
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As soon as I've watched one I'm always dying for the next one! No patience at all!
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Jenny*
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I think that's like most Lost fans!!
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Guest
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daniel is defn a fav character on lost at the mo.
i hope desmond and farraday meet again so they can talk more about
the constant thingy.
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April_Rose
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Yeah I'd say they will, either Desmond will come back to the island or Daniel will go back to the ship, but they'll have to meet again if Desmond is Daniel's constant...
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Guest
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thats right.
and also when the door was opened for them from outside on the
freight that must have been michael.
where the hell is he almost have of the season ha been aired
and no sign of him only his name appears on the screen.
i felt for poor george minkowski when he died he said he couldn't come bakc
as he was traveling aswell like desmond he did give some answers regarding the
episode but he cud have done a bit more.
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April_Rose
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Oh yeah, I thought it was Frank who opened the door but maybe it was Michael....
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