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April_Rose

Ji Yeon Episode discussion

Chat about the episode here once you've seen it! Very Happy
Guest

i dnt get it is jin dead or alive.
but another good episode
glad to see michael aka kevin johnson back.
and also sayid played along with him.
April_Rose

It's weord. I can't seem to take a screen cap of the tombstone but on the left hand side there's 1980, 3, 20 written down the side. On the right there's 1974, 11, 27 in the first column, then 2004, 9, 22 in the last. 22nd September 2004 - isn't that the date the plane crashed? if so that would suggest that Jin isn't one of the Oceanic 6 after all - though maybe there isn't anyone else to come, maybe it's baby Aaron is counted as the 6th. So it looks like he dies some time between the present on the island and when they get off it - but then again, maybe he isn't dead, maybe he is still alive on the island.

I was well P'd off when the last segment of the flashforward came on - so Jin's sections were actually flashbacks, and it seems to have been put there for no good reason except to fool us. I like twists and turns and intrigue, but that seems to be a bit lower quality than what we've come to expect from Lost. Confused


Good to see Michael but it was a really brief scene and we all knew he was the guy on the boat. Sayid did well (of course) not to react to him. An ok episode, but not great.
Guest

so it was a flashforward on sun's part
and a flashback on jin's
intresting now i get it.
April_Rose

Yeah, seems to be....I'm not altogether impressed by that technique!
Guest

but y was she calling for jin
while giving birth i dnt get it im bloody confused.
also y hurley of all people.
April_Rose

I suppose she was calling for Jin because she was delirious and desperate....only reason i can think of....Dunno why Hurley, maybe he's just the nicest of the ones that get off the island! Laughing
Guest

and also he's one of the oceanic six.
and i remember when he goes to the hosp
to congratulate the consular and the nurse asks him y was he leaving so early
he said it wsnt his baby he was only married two months so he needs time.t
that also proves it was a flashback.
April_Rose

yeah, that's what I was saying about the flashback but maybe he isn't one of the Oceanic 6, maybe it's Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun & Aaron....
Guest

true.but Aaron wasnt really on oceanic 815 was he.
he was conceived later on the island, so that leaves ben as we
know that he will leave the island coz we saw him in sayid's flashforward.
so if he cud have escaped somehow i dnt know?????????
and claimed that he was on the plane.
April_Rose

Yeah, I suppose it's hard to be sure what they said about Aaron - by his age they'd probably have had to pretend that Kate was pregnant before she ever got on the plane, don't know if Ben could have pretended to be on the plane unless he took over someone else's identity but I have a feeling he found another way off it, I don't think he'd want his face to be recognisable like the faces of the Oceanic 6 were....

Anyway, I'm off to watch it again now hubby is home from work, might have more of an idea after seeing it a second time. Be back later! Very Happy
Guest

sure thing let me know if i missed sumin
coz this episode  has confused me big time.
Em_J

April_Rose wrote:
Yeah, seems to be....I'm not altogether impressed by that technique!


Totally and utterly agree. Weak. This is another reason I hate flashforwards, because they're now having to do that with flashbacks to try and catch us out. Ridiculous! I knew Jin was dead anyway, just knew it! Sad Not that impressed with that episode actually. Meh. Juliet is basically the female version of Jack though, I really can't stand her at all now. And maybe Michael's the other Oceanic 6 person?
Guest

hey that thought never occured to me
michael could be another oceanic 6.
i hate flashforward too,
but in this one it was flashforward/back.
xkatiex

okay this episode reallyyyy confused me Razz
although now ive read some of the posts in this topic it does make sense that it was jins flashback & suns flashforward...and i thought this show could not get more confusing!!! Laughing
glad to see michael back though..will be interesting to see where hes been all this time Smile
Guest

exactly i dnt know what to make of this one.
this has to be officially the most confusing eps
ever,whoever wrote it must be one twisted indivdual.
Em_J

I actually didn't think the ep was confusing at all, just generally a bit crap.

Here's the tombstone:

April_Rose

Cheers for the tombstone pic, for some reason every time I tried taking one it f'd up on me!

Glad to know I wasn't the only one unimpressed with the episode...
Em_J

Totally unimpressed. It's like they were trying too hard to fool us. Stoopid.

Apparently the dates on the tombstone are Sun's DOB, and Jin's DOB and DOD.
April_Rose

Yeah, that's what I thought...I've come to expect better than that somehow, it seemed a really cheap way of trying to fool us.

I suppose that would make sense regards the tombstone...
Em_J

I did like Jin's rage in this ep though, it cracked me up! When he was yelling at the bloke in the taxi.
April_Rose

Yeah, that was funny....the whole thing just pissed me off though. Falling for something because it's a great plotline is one thing, being manipulated for the sake of it is something else. The rest of the episode was grand, some good scenes even say when Sayid was talking to the Captain of the boat....the flashes just annoyed me though.
Em_J

Yeah... there were good bits I guess. Sun and Jin making up was sweet (shades of Jex methinks!) and I actually quite liked Jin and Bernard on the boat.
April_Rose

Yeah...I've always hated Bernard but he was ok in this episode , to be fair. Jin forgiving Sun was a good scene, I was watching the first few episodes last weekend and it reminded me how much I hated Jin at the start, and those scenes reminded me why I like him now.

In general, I felt annoyed after watching it though.
Em_J

I like Jin, gutted if he's actually dead. Sad
April_Rose

it's a weird one though....maybe he'll die on the island, but at the same time his tombstone says he died in the crash, so maybe he's still alive and on the island, can't imagine why he'd not have left with Sun though now he knows everything.
Guest

what did i tell ya guys sun/jin flashes are annoying.
but u r right about the island and frieght scenes
they were great.captain is awsome dnt know y did the doc
said to sayid and des just dont piss him off.
lostbhoys

i'm bored with future flashes, it's just too confusing for me. i dont understand why the writers would waste so much time just trying to confuse us with past flashes and future flashes.      baby doing good, born on 28th, not leap year baby, his name is Cairn. thanks to everyone for congrates
April_Rose

Glad to hear it's all good lostbhoys! Very Happy

I understand the principle of the flashforwards, but this episode annoyed me.....
Guest

hey rock on man
congrats once again.

i hate flashforwards myself
im totally against it.
lostbhoys

so where is walt?
Guest

dnt know hopefully we'l see him in the next eps.
April_Rose

That is the question...hopefully answered in the next episode!
lostbhoys

and who do you think is going to die

is there going to be a break after the next episode?
April_Rose

I hope not!!!

I know that was all they had filmed before the strike but it's been finished for a while now, they've had time to get back on track....I hope....
lostbhoys

do we know who's funeral jack went to in the first flash forward and will they count as one of the oceanic 6?
Guest

hey thats a good question.
April_Rose

No, we don't know yet whose funeral it was or whether it'll be one of the Oceanic 6....there was a lot of speculation at the time that it was Michael....
Guest

will they ever tell us who that was
coz we dnt really know who the hell oceanic six is.
bagels

ok guys so u now how ive tried to b lil miss positive bout pretty much all the episodes of this season so far and try n get u lot to stop complainin an jus be glad we hav lost. well i have to say i think im about ready to give up on that now and join th ranks of current pessimisim and dissapointed that seems ti b goin on here.i am now officially peeved off with lost.weve had 2 consectetive episodes now that hav basically been crap an jus al load of ole twaddle that we dont really need to know about boring characters an to top it all off neither of them hav had any Sawyer to brighten things up and no before any1 tells me so that pointless 3seconds we saw of him at the enc of last weeks episode does not count.
Xarcabard

Good episode for two shockers:

- Jin is gonna die
- Michael's back and has had a haircut

Rest of the episode was like most Jin/Sun eps and was rather lame. I personally wasn't really confused with anything in the episode, which is a real change from usual.

Was also good to see the Sun slap back in action, really missed that since the one on Sawyer.
April_Rose

Yeah Sun slapping Juliet was a nice one! Laughing
Guest

wtever juilet did it was for the well being
of sun and jin and she wants her to get of the island
so she can have the baby abd she did so dnt know y stupid sun
was pissed off there.a bit harsh i think.
Jenny*

oooo just watched the episode! I actually really liked it! ... I wouldn't think I'd be bothered about Jin dying (cos I kinda knew ..) but then when it came to it I wished he wasn't dead ...

and he isn't! Well I don't think he is anyway! I think he just didn't get off the island, that's why his death date is the date of the plane crash

liked the panda thing, made me laugh Laughing

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