Danielle

Danielle is a mystery and I've never been entirely satisfied with her story. If we believe what she says she landed on the island 16 years ago with her husband science team and a baby, Alex. they were lured there by the same signal repeating the numbers that Hurley's friend Leonard from the mental hospital heard when he was in the navy. their boat was wrecked, the Others stole baby Alex and the rest of the team got "sick" and Danielle was forced to kill them. her different accounts of this time differ, sometimes suggesting a physical illness, at other times more a kind of madness. Could this "madness" simply have been them suggesting they join the Others, while she, a grief-stricken mother robbed of her child, could not see the sense in that?

Could her science team have actually been part of the Dharma initiative? Could she have been a replacement, which over time, maddened by loneliness and grief she has forgotten or chosen to not allow herself to remember? if she had been a replacemnt and found the lab rats of the island had revolted (ie Became the others) that itself might explain what she called the sickness - perhaps the rest of her team believed in the philosophy of this new rebel group, while she couldn't let go of the fact they took her child?

I also find it hard to believe that since she knew the island so well, knew her way around the Dark terrritory, laid traps all over the place, that she never found the Others' village or any of the other places they use as bases or knew there was another island or even the hatches - surely she would have tried to get into the hatch as she nmight have thought it was wherethey had taken Alex? And it seemed when she met Sayid she knew nothing about the plane crash, while it was clear from the start of Tale of Two cities that had she been outside she certainly would have heard the noise made by the magnet overcharging and seen the plane come down.

Also, even if she hadn't met the Others, wouldn't it be likely that she woudl have at least run into Kelvin and noticed he was rebuilding a boat? Sometimes she seems to know everything going on all around the Island and other times she seems blind to everything in front of her.

At time I think of the Oracle in the Matrix films - heralded as one of wisdom whol will help bring about a revolution it turns out she is as much part of the programme as agent Smith. Could Danielle really be working with the Others, or even another group entirely, a plant designed to confuse them or put certain ideas in their heads?

Any thoughts?

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i understand what you are saying about danielle sometimes knowing everything, and others missing out simple points, you make a lot of valid point AR. i don't think danielle is one of the others, but possible some of her crew are. Also, the fact danielle didn't see kelvin or the others i think is just a flaw in the programme as they wouldn't have thought about it when they invented danielle as kelvin had not be introduced then.

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Maybe Danielle is just really distressed from being alone and having her child taken. You never know. I think she has some issues, but I'm not sure whether they're to do with loneliness or like you said maybe she's fooling herself.

You could be right about that Jen, maybe I'm overanalysing, though is is strange she never knew about the hatches - they weren't very well hidden or anything, and that part of the storyline wasn't far off when she first appeared, it was just a couple of episodes after she met Sayid that Locke and Boone found the hatch.

I just think there will be a twist involving her in the future, thanks for reading and commenting anyway guys!

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didn't she know about the maternity hatch?

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I don't know if she did, she took them back to where she had found Claire but if she had known about where the hatch itself was you'd think she would have watched it closely, and she'd have seen Alex at some stage and probably gone in there guns blazing.

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did anyone find it weird when danielle saved claire from the others, and she saw them with torches in the distnace through the woods, but she never did anything... i woulda thought she'd have wanted her daughter back no? i mean... shes been on the island 16years and not once has even SEEN an "other"

... or so she says... i mean, mikhail was one of the others, why couldnt rosseau be one

wouldnt mind a rosseau flashback one of these days

I believe Rosseau is an other but for some reason was "purged" from the group. I mean where does she get all her bullets from? She is always shooting that rifle. Yet she misses her daughter but wont do anything to get her back.

Ive never understood danniele from day 1 and now lost is giving us more info im getting more confused by her

1)We recently found out that the others actually stay on the same island as out losties and they work from another island......Now what is going to confuse me is apparently they have barracks and back gardens,,,,,And surely our losties are going to find them.....So this brings me to the dilema ..We have been shown that damiele can look after herself in the jungle and track people and stay hidden for 16years,But on the other hand CANT or WONT look for these mentioned barracks and living quarters that she has shared with the other's (and her daughter) yet never found her or any other.....

That is untill she myseriously captures Fenry/Ben.....Now we had brief explanations why fenry/Ben needed capturing but no story why daniele caught him and the fact Fenry/Ben is upto now the leader of the others...Seems strange that to me tbh as it makes it seem to me that daniele is in bens pocket as again seems strange danieles daughter calls ben dad....

2)This illness....Well we have 100% proof that there as never been any illness as we know know that multiple people stay all over the island and have the abilty to leave (One character that we know of atleast)..And 2 main characters being michael and walt.......So if there is/was an illness why is none of the others concerened about it enough that they will mingle with the losties they just choose not to......So again is daniele speaking rubbish about it or is there more to it....

3)Ammo Clean Clothes and proper nuirishment....As mentioned above regarding ammo..Where dos she get all this shit from and how is she managing to maintain it all....I think shes either a mole or some kinda fucked up hynotysed drug injused zombie?.....What it is lost remeber lol

What if at some point in the past ben and danielle had a relashionship maybe danielle went mad and killed her teammates like she said but because she had a thing with ben he managed to not get her executed but releseased to live like an animal while he brings up there daughter or her daughter he sees as his daughter.......A father daughter relashionship can be a very special thing and to just have a random storyline that ben is now danieles missing childs dad after 16 years cant be just a mind f*ck storyline or coincidental......Anywho im rambling now and losing my train of thought lol

Possible that you're right, she was an other but was exiled rather than executed, and then Ben really is her dad as well as Danielle really her mum, there's just something not right with her, and I dont' thinmk we'll learn what for a while yet!

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i suppose danielle could be an other, but then what about the black rock? where would that have come from then?

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I'd say the Others know about everything on the island, and if she was one of them she would have access to all that information. That's a whole other mystery in itself, how it ended up in the middle of the jungle, suppose it could have been just a tidal wave but in Lost nothing is ever that simple!

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Maybe Danielle is being'controlled' by Ben.
By this I mean Ben could have conned her the way he conned Sawyer regarding the explosive he said he had put in him to control him. Ben could have told danielle that if she made contact with alex that something similar may happen. I know it's a longshot but the sawyer bit wasn't used a great deal in the storyline and it may have been an indication of how Ben and his mob control certain people
Anyway I thought I'd throw it out there to get your braincells thinking

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They do a lot of manipulation so i can understand why you came up with the idea but if this was the case why would Danielle be going to help Kate and Sayid and Locke now?

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Remeber the room they dragged alex's boyfriend out of some kinda f*ck*d up hytnotised glasses tv thingy going on maybe just maybe danniele gets a regular dose of that ......Would send you loopy

Even if she was only in there once a long time ago it might have been enough to convince her of her story about what happened to her, make her forget who she really was.

It's good seeing more of her at the moment anyway! I'm sure there are clues there, I don't tend to look all that closely though, there's always someone else who will do that, and post it somewhere online!

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It would be great to see Danielle's trip to the island via flashback

The one point that I've said in the past about her is what was pointed out by April up above.
Why did she "capture" Ben? OK.. I have thought about this, and have reached a basis. I believe she's a pawn that Ben uses as he sees fit.
She has used a gun, and so i'm sure that seeing as how that crossbow was so "convienently" left where it was (it was behind a bush wasn't it?) she also should have had no problem shooting him somewhere other than the shoulder. I believe that in itself is proof of her being something we haven't seen yet. Why shoot him in the shoulder instead of the chest if you're so worried about him? I say it's because she can't. She knows that Ben is her only chance of ever seeing Alex or having contact with her. This was also provenwhen she refused to join Kate, Locke, and Sayid when they entered the Others dwellings. She knew that it was not just a bad idea, but that it would cost her personally.
She is only helping them with the dynamite because she thinks that the Losties have a real chance at doing some major damage to the others, and also having a chance to get ben out of the way.
Why she's been outcast..(yeah I agree with that) is more than likely for a similair reason as Juliet. She maybe wanted something that wasn't part of the Ben/Others plan, and she needed to be dealt with.

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